魔戒里什么是强兽人什么是半兽人啊????

魔戒里什么是强兽人什么是半兽人啊????,第1张

先回答楼主问题再反驳三楼

这个兽人有两种意思,orc和half orc,台湾就是把orc翻译做“半兽人”,而我们大陆就一律叫兽人,而half orc,在魔戒的背景中是混血兽人,也就是人类与兽人的混血种,才被译作“半兽人”,台湾如何翻译这个词不甚清楚

强兽人,也就是Uruk-hai,这个词是黑暗语,意思本身就是“兽人”,台湾的朱学恒是用意译翻译为“强兽人”,是因为这个族群确实比普通普通兽人更强壮更高大

Uruk-hai在魔戒原著中的来历一直就不是很“含糊”,而是根本就没有提到,但是可以从树须等人的暗示中得出——这是一个由萨茹曼将兽人和人类的混血种改进而来的种群,资料如下

Crossbreeding with Men

Following Treebeard's speculative statements, some readers have questioned whether Saruman's Uruk-hai at least, and all Uruk-hai at most, were bred by crossbreeding with Men The book does not directly state this, though it heavily hints at it

Other forces in Saruman's armies, and under his command in the Shire, definitely appear to have been hybrids, though these individuals, called "half-orcs" and "goblin-men" in The Two Towers, were as tall as Men and are never described simply as Orcs, as the Uruk-hai frequently are, and an account of the first Battle of the Fords of Isen in Unfinished Tales (part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) apparently treats Uruk-hai and "orc-men" separately

A relevant passage in Morgoth's Ring (also part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) states that some Orcs at least were derived from Mannish stock

"Finally, there is a cogent point, though horrible to relate It became clear in time that undoubted Men could under the domination of Morgoth or his agents in a few generations be reduced almost to the Orc-level of mind and habits; and then they would or could be made to mate with Orcs producing new breeds, often larger and more cunning There is no doubt that long afterwards, in the Third Age, Saruman rediscovered this, or learned of it in lore, and in his lust for mastery committed this, his wickedest deed: the interbreeding of Orcs and Men, producing both Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile" (Morgoth's Ring, "Myths Transformed" - Text X)

Given that "Orc-men" and "Men-orcs" are treated as distinct types of hybrids, and that "orc-men" are differentiated from Uruk-hai in Unfinished Tales, some then assume that the "Men-orcs large and cunning" are the Uruk-hai, at least those of Saruman However, there is nothing in the quote itself that states that the term "Men-orcs" specifically applies to Uruk-hai

Robert Foster's The Complete Guide to Middle-earth makes no references to Uruk-hai as the results of crossbreeding since the issue hinges on material unpublished when his book was written

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关于三楼那位的意见

半兽人的意思您看懂了么?半兽人这里是说的half orc不是orc,orc自然是一个独立的种族,但half orc不是,你那个人马例子让人无奈,南欧神话的生物与北欧神话背景的魔戒来比有可比性?

强兽人身前是精灵,ORZ,你看了那篇“兽人的起源是人类”么?

http://wwwcndkcnet/bbs/read-htm-tid-4085html

**当中强兽人那种从土里面繁育的模式完全得不到原著资料的支持,仅仅是导演的发挥而已,这个能用来解释什么问题,萨茹曼的力量还没有强大到创造新的种族,即便索隆本人也不行

1、培养他们的人不同。

半兽人被折磨驯养成的。强兽人——Uruk-hai则是第三纪(就是魔戒故事发生时期)由巫师萨茹曼培养出的,更强的黑暗力量。

2、体型不同。

强兽人比半兽人更强,不惧怕阳光,而且比半兽人高大强壮,天生嗜血肉,武器装备也更精良。**中头上有白手印记,高大强壮的就是强兽人了。

3、对日光不同反应。

半兽人怕日光,可繁衍,对精灵和人类有天生的仇恨,但同时也痛恨自己的主人。强兽人不惧怕阳光。

扩展资料:

强兽人拥有比半兽人更高的智慧,在《指环王:双塔奇兵》中,抓住了皮平和梅里的强兽人军队中一只杂兵想要吃掉他们,但领队的强兽人队长显示出了对萨茹曼交代任务的严格执行,并将其斩首。

强兽人与半兽人的矛盾:

在《指环王:王者归来》中,双方各自队长都想夺走弗罗多身上价值连城的秘银胸甲发生争执,接而引发营地中双方势力的厮杀,而这也方便了山姆前来营救弗罗多。

半兽人居住的地方是个叫着苦寒之地的地方,自从300年前的百族大战后,人类取得了敏兹大陆的实际控制权,半兽人作为战败的种族,除了赔偿人类巨额的财富外,还被赶出了大陆的繁华地带,来到了死亡沙漠之边的苦寒之地。

  这里的气候十分异常,白天是40多度的高温,而夜晚却可以一下的降倒零下10多度。在这片土地上除了一种叫苦米的粮食外,其他的都不可能生长。这种苦米是略带苦味,很粗糙的农作物。这里没有蔬菜,没有水果,就连肉食也是那些抓到后风干的蜥蜴和毒蛇……

  噜噜文就出生在这个地方!

  他出生于一个普通的半兽人家庭,他的母亲是人类(半兽人的特点,雄性和任何种族交配,生出的都是半兽人,雌性者恰恰相反,和哪个种族交配,生出的都是那个种族的下一代。所以,有时候抢来的女奴隶被强迫交配而为半兽人敷衍下一代。)在他出生不久就死在了矿山(苦寒之地盛产一种宝石,是用来着魔杖的最佳物品),而他则被他那酗酒的父亲送到了孤儿院(半兽人有一种习惯,孤儿,或被父母抛弃的儿童国家可以出钱抚养,然后直接把他培养成为战士,通过严格的训练把他们变成精锐的狼骑兵,或犀牛骑士,这可是半兽人军队的主力),在那里噜噜文学到了很多有关于半兽人的文化,因为他是半兽人和人类的混血,所以并没有其它的那些同伴们这么健壮,但是他的精神力却比其他半兽人高出很多,这也就确定了他成为祭师的关键。

  半兽人信奉的是战神,而祭师是直接和战神对话,传达战神意志的,他们在半兽人的信仰里是占着很大的位置,甚至可以轻易的撤换族长。他们也是半兽人文化和历史的传播者,社会的发展和稳定是和祭师有着牢不可分的关系。所以他们可以享有很多的特权,例如免费吃喝……

  噜噜文,也许看上的就是这一点。他努力的成为一个合格的祭师。

  吃----对他来说太重要了,也许是孩提时代被饿的阴影,使得他对食物特别敏感;也许是他翻看了半兽人在敏兹大陆繁华地带的历史,使得他向往着那各种奇奇怪怪的美味佳肴,和陈年老酒,也许也正是这样,他居然偷吃了敬奉给战神的美味猪头和牛头。

  大祭师把他开除出了祭师的行列,同时整个半兽人的族群都在追捕这个亵渎了他们信仰的叛徒……

  于是叛徒在啃着猪头的情况下,开始的逃亡!

  

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